The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[oil pan 4]

If people used common sense there wouldn't be a disaster or it would be greatly minimized.
I don't understand how people can live in a triple threat or more disaster area can be so oblivious and just hope it will never happen to them.

[litesong]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Poisonarrow?

I see you have a name for an authoritarian wannabe dictator. More dangerous now, that he was stabbed.

[litesong]

litesong said:
No one said anything about dying. redpoint5 keeps returning to the "iffy" subject.
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Originally Posted by redpoint5

Laws carry with it the threat of death. If there was a law..... If I needed your......If the state..... If I legally.....

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litesong said:
No one said anything about dying. redpoint5 doubles & triples down, returning to "iffy" subjects, while simultaneously distancing itself from global-warming sciences, which are not "iffy".

[freebeard]

I see you have a name for an authoritarian wannabe dictator. More dangerous now, that he was stabbed.

Just asking questions.

Originally Posted by myself

Poisonarrow? Name-calling doesn't help your cause.

I was riffing on your name-calling. I don't have a dog in that hunt. I do enjoy watching the give and take between a Biblicist and Constutionalist.

[redpoint5]

I don't know what an iffy subject is.

I'm saying something about dying because it's pretty important to most people. I don't require permission from anyone to bring up a subject, especially if it's relevant to the topic of political mitigation of climate change.

You took my comment out of context, as far as I can tell, to deliberately paint me in a bad light. The evidence suggests your intention then wasn't to discuss/debate ideas, but to slander me. Perhaps that wasn't your intention, and it doesn't upset me either way, but you've yet to elaborate on what you meant by taking my comment out of context and replying to it with other quotes of scripture taken out of context.

Finally, you imply that I'm anti-science. I'm willing to see evidence of my comments that would suggest I'm anti-science, but as far as I recall, I have been nothing but supportive of climate science among the other sciences.

When this thread started, I probably leaned more toward doing very little to mitigate climate change, and have moved my opinion to include taking more action than I was previously prepared to accept. So it's not like this discussion is pointless or that I don't listen.

As I've said, and which nobody has objected to, when there's a person claiming imminent threat, and that there's no time to think but only to act, and that they are among the few that can save us, and that we must grant them authority... is pure corruption.

[Vman455]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

As I've said, and which nobody has objected to, when there's a person claiming imminent threat, and that there's no time to think but only to act, and that they are among the few that can save us, and that we must grant them authority... is pure corruption.

This strikes me as a straw man: who is saying that? The IPCC has released its reports to the public for decades; the thousands of studies are readily available to the public as well, and a lot of them originated at public universities, funded by taxpayers; the assessments of each IPCC report have gotten less rosy until finally some politicians are taking up the call to address this somehow, and they're putting forward things like proposed legislation which has to be voted on before it can be enforced. I'm not seeing anyone saying "there's no time to think but only act" (we've had decades to think, most people ignored or avoided it, and a huge number continue to do so) or "that they are among the few that can save us" (all the rhetoric I hear is that this will take a massive collective effort).

Or are you referring to something other than climate change? (I haven't been following all the posts here too closely).

[litesong]

Originally Posted by freebeard

.... Biblicist and Constutionalist.

More name calling. Ya got a pile of 'em!

[freebeard]

Maybe we should stick to pronouns. What are yours?

[litesong]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

I didn't just end up in the 6th least population dense state that is fairly seismicly(sic) inactive and beyond the reach of sea level rise, tsunami and sea cyclone by chance. I started out in the east coast.

You sound like Native Tribes that got chased off the east coast &/or driven on the Trail of Tears by the Long Knives. Only "Bad Weather Avoidance" was your.....DRIVING factor. Watch out...... that there Global Warming still might get ya. :

[oil pan 4]

Wanted to get away from the east coast rat race, like Baltimore for example.
I love my global warming here.
The old farmers used to call this area "the dunes", like sand dunes. It's all green from March to October now.