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Old 07-29-2019, 04:09 PM   #6311 (permalink)
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Though I lean Libertarian, I'm not a Libertarian, and I accept that artificially influencing an otherwise free market is sometimes necessary....

What I'm no ok with is subsidizing particular industries (EV incentives) or banning plastic grocery bags at the supermarket.
What works is anarcho-capitalism. Witness Internet. A recent example was set by Fisher Industries. They built something on an 'unbuildable' site that's best in class for a fraction of the cost. Over the weekend.

Their example shifted discourse in Congress, in case you didn't notice.

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Old 07-29-2019, 04:50 PM   #6312 (permalink)
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What works is anarcho-capitalism. Witness Internet. A recent example was set by Fisher Industries. They built something on an 'unbuildable' site that's best in class for a fraction of the cost. Over the weekend.

Their example shifted discourse in Congress, in case you didn't notice.
Nice to see a fellow ancap in here. Don't run into to many, despite it's practicality.
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ANYONE saying we've got an obligation to accomodate "displaced" people......
Jesus said, "I was hungry....".
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Paul in Timothy said, " be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation.......
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A poor woman who needed help for her children praised Allah, “I pray to Allah and thank donors for helping me through Islamic Relief, and I pray for all people who love doing good for orphans and poor people,” Naseeb’s mother said. “Thank you for helping orphans and planting happiness in their hearts. I pray that Allah bless and reward you for what you give.”
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Jesus said, "I was hungry....".
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Paul in Timothy said, " be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation.......
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A poor woman who needed help for her children praised Allah, “I pray to Allah and thank donors for helping me through Islamic Relief, and I pray for all people who love doing good for orphans and poor people,” Naseeb’s mother said. “Thank you for helping orphans and planting happiness in their hearts. I pray that Allah bless and reward you for what you give.”
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There is no generosity without freedom. If the choice is "be generous, or die", then the ability to be generous never existed.

Goodness isn't compelled; it's a decision.

...and being generous with OPM (Other People's Money) misses the definition of generosity as well.
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Shaneajanderson — It's a pose to spread bad data about my true inclinations. What worries me is those on the political left proposing social nationalism.

litesong — Could generosity be an aspirational goal but not obligatory? redpoint5's concern is scale, you could bleed out.
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Old 07-29-2019, 08:40 PM   #6316 (permalink)
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If the choice is "be generous, or die".....
No one said anything about dying. redpoint5 keeps returning to the "iffy" subject.
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I like your mitigation plan, living in a state with an average 5.7 THOUSAND foot elevation. Its nice to know, you'll let a thousand low-land islanders share your property..... when they lose their property.
Sucks to be them.
That's almost as dumb as saying I should have to share my land with stupid west coasters who evacuated after the big one, that they know has been coming for at least 50 years hits them.
A lack of planning on their part is in no way an emergency for me.

I didn't just end up in the 6th least population dense state that is fairly seismicly inactive and beyond the reach of sea level rise, tsunami and sea cyclone by chance. I started out in the east coast.
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Right - and when trees die and the rot - they release the carbon anyway. So, overall natural wildfires do not add carbon to the air.
Every tree that burns, which could live to 100 years, 1000 years or 3000 years, immediately loses almost all its carbon storage. Also lost, is its carbon storage potential, because it isn't growing anymore. Then, man-unkind continues to think of more reasons, NOT to provide the same natural carbon storage space. Case in point: Jair Bolsonaro, elected Brazilian president, increased whacking the Amazon forest by 88%. Jarhead Poison is a super-"don'T rump", but isn't super, specially if he tries to become a lifetime dictator.
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Four consecutive yearly U.S. total forest fire burns beginning in 1980, were 5+ million, just under 5 million, 2+million, & 1+ million, acres.
The last four years' U.S. total forest fire burns beginning in 2015, were 10+ million, 5+ million, 10 million & just under 9 million, acres.

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Case in point: Jair Bolsonaro, elected Brazilian president, is really wacking the Amazon forest. Jarhead Poison is a super-"don'T rump"...
Poisonarrow? Name-calling doesn't help your cause.
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Nobody is obliged to be generous, but this is not a matter of generosity.
I feel in case of a disaster other requirements take over - like common sense.

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