The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[litesong]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

...Your implication by saying maybe to 10,000 cubic kilometers per year is that it's among the worst projections based on your source.

If anything can be properly implied from my statement, at some time in the future, Greenland could lose 10,000 cubic kilometers of ice per year. Of course, there was no implied limit to 10,000 cubic kilometers per year. But your need to believe it was a worst case scenario, shows a prime characteristic of AGW deniers: they must minimalize AGW effects.

[freebeard]

In case you didn't know Greta...

Yeah her. Poor girl, saying 'why am I here? You should be ashamed to listen to me!" in the UN. A very conflicted message, like she knows she's being used but can't alter the message.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by litesong

Can I take lots of CO2 to help warm the planet? Yes, even I see the need for warmth on Mars. Problem is, so much CO2 will be needed to warm Mars, that, even with good quantities of nitrogen & oxygen, necessary CO2 levels will poison us.

Sure, take what you need
Actually the atmosphere of Mars contains about 93% CO₂. It is much more abundant there than here. Even so, its atmosphere as a whole has just a fraction of our density.

I don't think it will ever be possible to live on the surface of Mars.
It is too small, its gravity is too low, it would lose its atmosphere especially when the sun gets brighter (and even in 2 billion years from now, it will be nowhere bright enough). Cosmic radiation would cause big trouble. And the soil, if you can call it that, is highly toxic.

If you want to survive on Mars you need to tunnel deep. Martians (of human descent) will be cave dwellers.

We can practice on the Moon. There's a giant lava cave, in its extremities the temperature is fairly constant.
As a moon 'day' takes almost a month the days are hot enough to melt some metals and the nights are cold enough to freeze gases like oxygen. Thermal stresses on any structure are extreme. Also moon dust is extremely abrasive and penetrates everything. And we have cosmic radiation, the Earth's magnetic field is too weak at that distance to provide meaningful protection like it does for the ISS.
So you really don't want to be on the surface of the moon. Start in the cave and tunnel from there, that's the only way.

Tunneling is tiresome work though. Maybe we should start on ice-ball moons or asteroids or such, that should be relatively easy.

Meanwhile we should buy ourselves some time by poisoning our own planet less fast.

[litesong]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Yeah her. Poor girl....

Poor "freezebeard". Can't understand the new generation, who knows the immoral inhumanity of a society that is immolating the poor first, then themselves.

[sendler]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Yeah her. Poor girl, saying 'why am I here? You should be ashamed to listen to me!" in the UN. A very conflicted message, like she knows she's being used but can't alter the message.

Nice spin! You know that's not what she said. Now I know you. Her latest speech was by far the most emotional and may not have been the best one to lead with as her first in the USA with it's preponderance of people that choose to shut out the science of climate change and so were still not at all familiar with any of her previous work. Which is actually quite brilliant. She has some of the world's preeminent scientists on speed dial and has now started to add prominent social commentators such as Naomi Kline and George Monbiot. And world leaders such as the Pope.
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Here is a list of some of her previous speeches for those that want to believe the latest was a one time irrational rant:
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https://www.fridaysforfuture.org/greta-speeches
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Greta Thunberg speeches
Greta Thunberg speech at the National Assembly in Paris 2019-07-23


Greta Thunberg speech at the EU Parliament in Strasbourg 2019-04-16


Greta Thunberg "You can't just sit around waiting for hope to come" 2019-02-21 in Brussels


Greta Thunberg Full Speech 2019-02-21 in Brussels: "We want politicians to listen to the scientists"


Greta Thunberg "Our House is on Fire" 2019 World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos


Greta Thunberg challenging The World Economic Forum in Davos - January 22 2019


Greta Thunberg speech at COP24 Dec 12 2018


Greta Thunberg speech at COP24 Dec 3 2018


Greta Thunberg speech at TEDxStockholm

[sendler]

Originally Posted by RedDevil

Sure, take what you need
Actually the atmosphere of Mars contains about 93% CO₂. It is much more abundant there than here. Even so, its atmosphere as a whole has just a fraction of our density.

I don't think it will ever be possible to live on the surface of Mars.

Atmospheric pressure on Mars is .006 Bar. Almost nothing. It all blew away by Solar wind because Mars has no magnetic field. There is nothing there for us to live. Forget it.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by litesong

Poor "freezebeard".

I like to remind you that it is against forum etiquette to insult other people, even if they happen to side with the dark side.
Please don't force me to block your comments, like I had to do with some others.

Insult is the weapon of those who have nothing better.
If you do have something better, like factual information, you don't need insult.

[slowmover]

Originally Posted by sendler

Nice spin! You know that's not what she said. Now I know you. Her latest speech was by far the most emotional and may not have been the best one to lead with as her first in the USA with it's preponderance of people that choose to shut out the science of climate change and so were still not at all familiar with any of her previous work. Which is actually quite brilliant. She has some of the world's preeminent scientists on speed dial and has now started to add prominent social commentators such as Naomi Kline and George Monbiot. And world leaders such as the Pope.
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Here is a list of some of her previous speeches for those that want to believe the latest was a one time irrational rant:
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https://www.fridaysforfuture.org/greta-speeches
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Greta Thunberg speeches
Greta Thunberg speech at the National Assembly in Paris 2019-07-23


Greta Thunberg speech at the EU Parliament in Strasbourg 2019-04-16


Greta Thunberg "You can't just sit around waiting for hope to come" 2019-02-21 in Brussels


Greta Thunberg Full Speech 2019-02-21 in Brussels: "We want politicians to listen to the scientists"


Greta Thunberg "Our House is on Fire" 2019 World Economic Forum (WEF) in Davos


Greta Thunberg challenging The World Economic Forum in Davos - January 22 2019


Greta Thunberg speech at COP24 Dec 12 2018


Greta Thunberg speech at COP24 Dec 3 2018


Greta Thunberg speech at TEDxStockholm

You mean, Greta and her George Soros handler.

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[redneck]

Originally Posted by sendler

In case you didn't know Greta, here is a full interview to get acquainted with the next Nobel prize winner.
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https://youtu.be/Dgi30Wy_V74
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Pedophrasty


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[redneck]

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