The climate change consensus extends beyond climate scientists

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Renewable power that was made with fossil fuels

Not only that, but it isn't 100% renewable energy either. They may purchase an equivalent in renewable energy generation, but their actual delivered electricity sometimes comes from non-renewables when demand and nature don't align perfectly, which is constantly.

In other words, if everyone followed suit, we'd just have intermittent electricity since there'd be no variable non-renewables to smooth things out.

Originally Posted by RedDevil

Do you like koalas?

No, they can exist in just zoos for all I care. They've been trying to go extinct for some time now.

A slower pace of CO2 rise would be much easier for the world's organisms to adapt to though, so on that point I'd agree.

[RedDevil]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

No, [koalas] can exist in just zoos for all I care. They've been trying to go extinct for some time now.

Ah, so we're only helping them to die. Cute.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by RedDevil

Ah, so we're only helping them to die. Cute.

Zoos don't generally try to actively kill animals. Usually the just provide the environments necessary for them to live while entertaining us monkeys.

Extinction occurs all the time (99.99 of all species are extinct), and the imperative to save them is only in relation to how much we value their existence. People seem to like 'em well enough, which is why zoos are appropriate places for them to live.

I think wooly mammoths would be neat to have around, and the last ones lived just 3200 years ago, but am I really that worse off now that they are extinct? Probably not.

[litesong]

Originally Posted by euromodder

Last interglacial period, the waters rose....
Where I live, was flooded back then..... warm interglacial period, and likely nearing the maximum of it (least ice)..... gospel of Global Warming.....Greatest contributor isn't CO2, it's water vapour ...

All AGW denier arguments.

A video camera zoomed in on a fellow, decked out in fishing garb with waders, standing in a pond. A tighter view showed he held a baseball & glove. He said he used to play baseball on the field he was in..... that was no longer a field.
Yeah, no stories from 20,000 years ago, just a story of his boyhood. Other views in Maryland, showed homes that were on the edge of abandonment, because the rising tides were coming in.

AGW deniers used to pump the idea of a nearing ice age because the sun was at a Total Solar Irradiation low. For the last 13+ years, the sun has been radiating at a TSI low. But, Earth bio-sphere temperatures continue to rise..... in the air, in the water & in the dirt. But, AGW deniers percentage-wise, still got lots of muk luk boots, while they wait for the ice age.

[freebeard]

A video camera zoomed in on a fellow, decked out in fishing garb with waders, standing in a pond....... that was no longer a field.

Beavers?

Originally Posted by RedDevil

Ah, so we're only helping them to die. Cute.

It's Australia! Australia tries to kill everything — coral to people. Zoos elsewhere are refuges.

[litesong]

Originally Posted by litesong

A video camera zoomed in on a fellow, decked out in fishing garb with waders, standing in a pond. A tighter view showed he held a baseball & glove. He said he used to play baseball on the field he was in..... that was no longer a field.

Originally Posted by freebeard

Beavers?

Nah. Sea level rise.... First, time an AGW denier blames AGW on beavers. But, that's what AGW deniers do. Blame everything else, while smokestacks & exhaust pipes pump only pure sweet emissions that can't change the Earth.

[freebeard]

Did they zoom out to see how rising sea levels affects a pond?

First[coma] time?

An is correct for Anthropogetic, but is it correct for an acronym? A AGWD?

[litesong]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Did they zoom out...

Better than blaming beavers. You are an AGW denier..... maybe a liar & a whiner, too. Put those two phrases together & ya got a poem.
What u say? Tide's in? In 200 years, it'll be sea level rise is in... to stay. People already see a different Bay of Fundy tide. The heated water of Massachusetts is driving lobster out of the state, further north to Fundy. At least, temporarily.

[freebeard]

I ask a question, and I get blame?

Better than blaming beavers. You are an AGW denier..... maybe a liar & a whiner, too. Put those two phrases together & ya got a poem.

Mods — Help, I'm being oppressed.

[litesong]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I get blame? Mods — Help, I'm being oppressed.

You get blamed for being an AGW denier on an auto website? What a good place to be when you're an AGW denier. Do you feel cozy & protected?