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Old 02-24-2013, 08:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Amazing how difficult it is to get a new car on the road in the US. Maybe we need a classification like they do for small airplanes that are called "Experimental" .

That way we could have a couple thousand of "Experimental" cars on the road to work out the bugs before going to full production.

Reminds me of the movie "Tucker" where the big 3 automakers used the federal government to do the dirty work.

Something about this deal stinks...
The feds showing favoritism to mega corps? Why that's crazy talk. You need to loosen the straps on that tin foil hat.

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Old 02-25-2013, 12:58 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Amazing how difficult it is to get a new car on the road in the US. Maybe we need a classification like they do for small airplanes that are called "Experimental" .
There was a Mexican sportscar which was gonna be offered in America only as a kit-car to be assembled either by the owner or a subcontractor, to overcome the mandate of some safety devices. If that cabin motorcycle was also imported in a CKD scheme it would also be easier to overcome the Big Brother.
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Something really does need to be done about the nanny state. Last week I was we were told that we could no longer adjust fiber optic amps on a piece of equipment at work with proper PPE (personal protective equipment) because within 18 inches of said amp, is exposed 110 VAC. The fact that you can't do it with the gloves on doesn't matter. The fact that it is nearly immpossible to jam your hand into the area with the killer voltage doesn't matter either.

This kind of nonsense goes on everywhere and costs untold billions of dollars and is yet another reason that companies say screw and pack up and move off shore.
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So let me get this straight. These guys failed to gain EPA, DOT, or US Customs compliance for their vehicle and simply went on the fact that some director sat in their vehicle for a photo op as the green light to just ship the thing over to the US. Now we're supposed to believe the EPA and DOT are the bad guys? Am I missing something?
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^Yes, how hard would it be to put some DOT rims on it, and reflectors, or whatever the big hang-up is. That said, the officials need to grant the owner access to put it in compliance.
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So let me get this straight. These guys failed to gain EPA, DOT, or US Customs compliance for their vehicle and simply went on the fact that some director sat in their vehicle for a photo op as the green light to just ship the thing over to the US. Now we're supposed to believe the EPA and DOT are the bad guys? Am I missing something?
That is what I got from the article.

Every vehicle that is imported follows the same rules... why should there be an exception?

We don't know WHY this vehicle is stuck in customs. There could be a stupid reason or a very good reason. It could be a missing sticker or because it is using an unsafe part. We may never know why.
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That is what I got from the article.

Every vehicle that is imported follows the same rules... why should there be an exception?
There are many exceptions made everyday

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We don't know WHY this vehicle is stuck in customs. There could be a stupid reason or a very good reason. It could be a missing sticker or because it is using an unsafe part. We may never know why.
Trust me, they are all stupid reasons. Why should they be able to hold a vehicle that is just a piece of property and not allow it in the country at all just because the bumper height and origin of materials certificate doesn't match something they like? Remember they don't have to give plates for the thing just because it entered the country.

SO my problem is they should not be able to crush a non-conforming car just because it enters the country, seems to me they could stop it at the point you go to get license plates eh?

Just having it exist in this country should never be possible to be illegal, if they want to make driving it on us public roads that is another matter.
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If the owner refuses to ship it back when told to what else should they do with it? Like the article said... remote possibility...

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As a result, the MonoTracer will either have to be returned to Switzerland or, a remote possibility, be crushed.
It isn't in line at the crusher.

I'm sorry but if someone wants to drop $100k on a vehicle wouldn't you think they would make sure to prep it to go through customs? Whether that be comply with DOT regulations or off road only or art? They aren't the only one to be screwed by the federal government... why should they get special treatment?
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People import vehicles all the time that are not allowed on the road and once they are imported they are still not allowed on the road, having the vehicle here and having the paper work saying that it's allowed on the roads here are very different.
When costumes doesn't allow something out of the port it's often because someone either lied on the paper work or someone put something in that wasn't supposed to be in there and in the story they admit that they didn't fill out all of the proper paper work and figured that it would pass based only on it's fame, that is why you make sure you have all the right paper work filed and you don't lie when making international shipments!
At work we had an internation shipment held up for 3 months because they found some grains of rice in the shipping container and they had to rip everything apart before letting it pass on to us.
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People import vehicles all the time that are not allowed on the road and once they are imported they are still not allowed on the road, having the vehicle here and having the paper work saying that it's allowed on the roads here are very different.
When costumes doesn't allow something out of the port it's often because someone either lied on the paper work or someone put something in that wasn't supposed to be in there and in the story they admit that they didn't fill out all of the proper paper work and figured that it would pass based only on it's fame, that is why you make sure you have all the right paper work filed and you don't lie when making international shipments!
At work we had an internation shipment held up for 3 months because they found some grains of rice in the shipping container and they had to rip everything apart before letting it pass on to us.
That is another possibility... Even leaves or plant matter can hold up a shipment... they don't eff around

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