12-02-2018, 01:52 PM
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It wasn't even made out of a single material. There might have been 3 materials, and a combination of rivets and epoxy to hold it all together.
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12-02-2018, 03:19 PM
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"Okay Bob, make a fender."
[Bob makes an atrocious fender]
"Bob, you are an idiot. Okay, you make the front half and Jerry, you make the back half."
[Bob and Jerry make atrocious fender halves]
"Bob and Jerry, you are both idiots. Okay, Bob, you make this part of the fender, Jerry, you make this part of the fender, Stan, you make this part of the fender, and Sal, you make this part of the fender."
[Bob, Jerry, Stan, and Sal make atrocious fender quarters]
"Bob, Jerry, Stan, and Sal, each and every one of you is an idiot. Okay..."
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12-02-2018, 03:31 PM
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I used to work for a custom big sheet metal forming place. We made buck forms out of the product by pouring cement into the object after laying a couple layers of fiberglass to toughen the skin.
Took a week and was repeatable. Common as all heck in aerospace. Limits are your press size and tonnage
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12-02-2018, 03:34 PM
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Hey got a recipe for that cement they used in those soft molds?
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12-03-2018, 05:26 AM
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And you really believe Tesla is unable to figure that out?
That they made a very complex and unnecessarily heavy wheel well because they weren't able to figure out how to do it in one piece, or just the idea never occurred to them?
Well I don't know, but maybe they made them extra heavy and sectioned for crash safety reasons.
Legacy cars have a lump of steel between the wheels, Teslas a crumple zone.
I bet guarding mud is not their only function.
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For confirmation go to people just like you.
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12-03-2018, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedDevil
And you really believe Tesla is unable to figure that out?
That they made a very complex and unnecessarily heavy wheel well because they weren't able to figure out how to do it in one piece, or just the idea never occurred to them?
Well I don't know, but maybe they made them extra heavy and sectioned for crash safety reasons.
Legacy cars have a lump of steel between the wheels, Teslas a crumple zone.
I bet guarding mud is not their only function.
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1. This is the rear wheel well.
2. Musk said he fired the engineer responsible for designing that wheel well.
So no, I don't think there is a hidden benefit to the poor design. |
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12-03-2018, 12:27 PM
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I think my little city has its first resident Model 3. I spotted it on the weekend.
That makes One S, and one 3.
A friend's relative also bought one, but a big tree fell on it in a rare tornado (Ottawa area) and wrote it off. Headline: Electric Car Destroyed by Climate Change  |
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12-03-2018, 12:53 PM
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More like tree reassignment!  |
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12-03-2018, 01:11 PM
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Maybe the tree wanted to hug the car back?
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12-03-2018, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSH
Legacy car companies are in the business of making money. Until recently there was no prospect of making money on an EV. Now that battery prices are dropping we will see what the legacy automakers are capable of producing.
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They are only making "a profit" when you ignore the fact that their product is contributing to destroying the climate.
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