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Old 07-24-2020, 05:05 PM   #301 (permalink)
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Old 10-09-2020, 11:11 PM   #302 (permalink)
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I often forget where I wrote out the instructions for electrifying the shed. I just bookmarked it, but I have been using many different computers lately!

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We blew a circuit in the kitchen and then two more. The circuit breaker itself went out and everything that I read said to call a professional. He came out, reset the GFCI in Mom's bathroom (which reset the outlet in our bathroom), replaced the outlet in our bathroom, and replaced the circuit breaker.

Mom recently said that she needed to replace her range hood just because it is ugly. There must be some way of degreasing and repainting it and the stove while I am at it. I said "The next time the microwave dies maybe we can install a microwave range vent!"

The microwave died a few days ago, right before the electrician came out. Mom mentioned the microwave range vent to my sister, who talked about having a professional install it. I looked up how to do it myself and almost couldn't find instructions anywhere.

I found something saying those are out-of-date. I had already learned that people currently prefer range hoods without cabinets [as well as ripping out upper cabinets over a bar].

Why don't people like storage anymore?!

Something said that microwave range hoods were lame, put one in a lower cabinet instead!

Wait, you are talking about wasting cabinet space with a microwave instead of filling in unused space?

How does that make sense?!

Then again, how do vents without cabinets make sense?!

I found many people replacing microwave range hoods to plain vents [probably without storage!] The one thing that I found said that the microwave range hood needed its own circuit and outlet, while standard hoods were invariably wired into the house, so someone would need to run a new circuit and install that outlet.

Yeah, that sounds expensive.

My brother asked us to buy his pizza [and a newspaper] way early today and if I had not been trying to do things like schedule my latest client I would have taken him early. When I was ready to go he wandered off and then someone parked in front of my car.

When the electrician came I reminded Mom about the microwave range hood and my sister had suggested having a professional run electricity. Somewhere I got the idea that it would cost $1,000.

Another electrician showed up when I was trying to leave to get an estimate.
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He talked about running conduit diagonally from the circuit breaker to the other gate post, running conduit along the fence, and then wiring up my shed. He didn't break down his estimate, but he said $1,200 - $1,500 for the microwave range hood and the shed.

I hadn't wanted to dig a trench in Arizona, but now that he gave me that estimate I keep thinking:

Run the power line with the cable lines, down the back corner, and then into a conduit as Oil Pan and I discussed. That sounds vastly better than running a conduit straight into the ground and then trenching 50' along the side of the house and then across the hard to the shed.

However, does that work?
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I found something saying those are out-of-date. I had already learned that people currently prefer range hoods without cabinets [as well as ripping out upper cabinets over a bar].

Why don't people like storage anymore?!
People love storage, but companies love selling. So they generate hype with a few magazine ads and some gushing blog posts for a product that's less functional but is more visually striking. Because it's visually so different, everyone can see at a glance that yours is cheap and old fashioned- so now people want to replace their microwaves just to refresh their kitchens.

Everyone wins- the hood people, the microwave people, the retail and installation people, the "look at how fabulous my kitchen is" people... everyone except regular people. And in 10 years, microwave hoods will be a thing again.
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Depending on the age of the house, and the breaker/panel set up, you can use a microwave on a standard circuit[ count peak watts] but my house has 15 amp circuits which were in vogue in the '40s so I ran a 20 amp to the washer area and use my micro plugged into the washer plug. (It's like 3 extra steps)

Hood vent micros mount to the wall and cabinets with install brackets using long screws, the ducting in the cabinet should directly attach, worse case needs a bit of foam seqling tape
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I found something saying those are out-of-date. I had already learned that people currently prefer range hoods without cabinets [as well as ripping out upper cabinets over a bar].

It depends on where the kitchen is and how it is designed. Cabinets above a bar or counter between the kitchen and living area block's the view and communication.

Today's trend is an open floorplan with the kitchen open to the dining and living area. That allows everyone to talk while meal prep is done and allows for a lot of natural light to flow through living space.

A 50's era kitchen was usually walled off from the living area. The men-folk could chat unbothered by the sounds of meal prep and then the meal would magically appear. After dinner the women and dishes would disappear and magically get washed and put away.

Today everyone is expected to be involved in those activities so it kitchen design allows for communication while it takes place.
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Ancient legend says that expensive kitchens with inadequate storage are for people who buy the food for guests.
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Ancient legend says that expensive kitchens with inadequate storage are for people who buy the food for guests.
I can only give you my personal experience.

Childhood Thanksgivings had my grandmother, aunts and mother in the kitchen while the men watched football. Female cousins did the dishes after. Male cousins went hunting after dinner.

Current Friendsgivings have almost everyone chipping in and talking before, during, and after dinner.
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Commalessness: "After dinner the women would disappear and magically the dishes get washed and put away."

Xist — first I swept the floor and then I trimmed my toenails. Everything I do is wrong.

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