OBII Smarter than us?

[jamesqf]

Originally Posted by racprops

And consider, The La Bray Tar Pits, what do we keep getting out of them??

Dinosaurs, and if oil and tar ARE made on dead Dinos how did they become trapped in something that should take millions of years to be made out of them?

Just plain wrong, like everything else you've posted here. The La Brea (note the spelling) contains bones of animals (mostly mammals & birds) from the late Pleistocene, up to roughly 50,000 years ago. The dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago. No dinosaur fossils have ever been found there. See e.g. La Brea Tar Pits - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you'd like to actually learn something, instead of continuing to display your monumental ignorance on subjects ranging from geophysics and paleontology to basic arithmetic and spelling.

[racprops]

Originally Posted by jamesqf

Just plain wrong, like everything else you've posted here. The La Brea (note the spelling) contains bones of animals (mostly mammals & birds) from the late Pleistocene, up to roughly 50,000 years ago. The dinosaurs became extinct 65 million years ago. No dinosaur fossils have ever been found there. See e.g. La Brea Tar Pits - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia if you'd like to actually learn something, instead of continuing to display your monumental ignorance on subjects ranging from geophysics and paleontology to basic arithmetic and spelling.

Funny I could have swarm they displayed Dinosaurs (bones) when I visited there in the 80s...some 25 to 30 years ago, so my memory is off a little...

But the concept may be still sound, how many thousands of Dinosaurs would it have taken to create that tap pit, if oil and tar are really Dinosaurs??

Dude lighten up...this is a conversation, not hard science..I am working off the top of my head, and not with a research grant or tech help..or a fact checker...

I am just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks.

So I misspelled La Brea, so give me a black star...when spell check saw La Brea it had no answer..so I thought I had it right..Brea still comes up with no correct correction.

The important thing here is what I have learned.

And believe me I have gotten a few very interesting answers and I am very happy with the results.

Rich

[racprops]

It seems that is true, many things can read your records...

As far the rest, I found out that there is nothing new in any of these Techs.

There seems to be hundreds of Patterns on just about every way to do each of these systems, so all I will be doing is figuring out a system that I can apple.

So there is no use going for a pattern. They are worthless any way.

So many fools think all they need do is invent something and get a pattern and the world will beat a path to your door with tons of money to give you.

All a pattern gives you is protection IF you go to market with a product. It helps you sue anyone that rips you off. But it is a fight in court if someone else does almost the same thing..and funny many can also get a pattern if there is enough different. Often as little as 10% change can earn a new pattern.

Now a days it is VERY HARD to truly invent something new.

In most cases it comes down to who has the biggest bank account and can afford the biggest lawyers and stay the fight for up to decades.

So your best bet is to make a deal with a big company who then puts their bank account in and fights the fight as they go to market with your invention.

But don't count on getting a fair deal..sometimes they only pay you for as long as it takes them to figure out a way around your pattern, or get one of their own with small enough change to do so.

I remember hearing about the guy who invented the drop release socket wrench, it took years for him to sue Sears and win, and I believe he did not do so well...

At this time staying alive is more important. Making a good living is all I am after.

And as a safety system I am considering releasing say system via the internet, public dominating it as a protection.

Rich

[NachtRitter]

Originally Posted by racprops

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There seems to be hundreds of Patterns on just about every way to do each of these systems, so all I will be doing is figuring out a system that I can apple.

So there is no use going for a pattern. They are worthless any way.

So many fools think all they need do is invent something and get a pattern and the world will beat a path to your door with tons of money to give you.

All a pattern gives you is protection IF you go to market with a product. It helps you sue anyone that rips you off. But it is a fight in court if someone else does almost the same thing..and funny many can also get a pattern if there is enough different. Often as little as 10% change can earn a new pattern.

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Sorry... a what? What is a "pattern"? You mean like the thing you use to make a dress? A sewing pattern?

Why not go with something that you can earn a living with that isn't so much trouble? You already know you can't fool the OBDII ECMs since they have so many controls. And you already know you can't sell something "honestly" that will screw up the emissions. And you know that if you sell something that has the potential for screwing up the emissions, you'll have to "prove" that it doesn't. And THEN, after all that time and money spent, you're going to have to restrict the profit. Sounds like a heck of a lot of work for a "mere" $100k profit a year. You could resell tchotchkes from China for significantly less effort and make significantly more profit without having to look over your shoulder (or out your window) to see if the suppressors are after you. And selling the tchotchkes is something you can start doing ... heck, tomorrow... not years and years down the road (and $1000's and $1000's down the drain).

Seems like there are much easier ways to "making a good living" than fighting a system that (as you've well described) is rigged to ensure your failure.

[racprops]

Originally Posted by NachtRitter

Sorry... a what? What is a "pattern"? You mean like the thing you use to make a dress? A sewing pattern?


Come on you know what I mean..darn spell police, I go quietly Officer, Darn SPELL CHECKER...


Why not go with something that you can earn a living with that isn't so much trouble? You already know you can't fool the OBDII ECMs since they have so many controls. And you already know you can't sell something "honestly" that will screw up the emissions. And you know that if you sell something that has the potential for screwing up the emissions, you'll have to "prove" that it doesn't. And THEN, after all that time and money spent, you're going to have to restrict the profit. Sounds like a heck of a lot of work for a "mere" $100k profit a year. You could resell tchotchkes from China for significantly less effort and make significantly more profit without having to look over your shoulder (or out your window) to see if the suppressors are after you. And selling the tchotchkes is something you can start doing ... heck, tomorrow... not years and years down the road (and $1000's and $1000's down the drain).

AND just what is/are Tchotchkes??Can't you spell what you putting me down with?

Seems like there are much easier ways to "making a good living" than fighting a system that (as you've well described) is rigged to ensure your failure.

And again any business that involves BUYING something and them trying to SELL it is not easy.

There are hundreds perhaps thousands try to sell stuff they bought from companies that say it is so easy to do so on eBay. These are sucker bait deals. Like stuffing mailers and building Cuckoo Clocks.

The first thing I learned is FIND a NEED that you personally have the skills and the tools to FILL.

As John Wayne used to say in a couple of his films, "A man has to know his limitations."

I know some of mine and of the world and what I can do.

This is something I might be able to do.

From my sort run with Dutchman I KNOW there is a demand.

I just need to figure out how to fill it.

Rich

[racprops]

Had a nice talk with a Tech at Moates.net.

Learned that A) the darn Ford Computer its self will not allow A/F ratios higher than 15:1..B) that also the engine also limits the thinner ratios to a max of about 16.7:1 perhaps due to the chamber design…

This limit is not common with many OTHER makes of motor and PCM.

So now that I know the above, I can get to working on using a piggy back computer to get the job done, at lease with Fords.

I should have stuck with GM.

OH BY the way that Easter egg setting for the Lean Burn Cruse, was and is in many GM PCMs, even some OBDII PCMs as well as in the Camaro PCM.

Interesting...At lease some GMs Can have a setting changed for better MPH.

SO I WAS RIGHT.

Rich

[doviatt]

So you got it to pass the emissions tests already?
Look up Edge Products EPA law suit. They increased performance in diesel trucks with a module. They got sued for $500,000 and have to buy back all of their modules.
The Wasatch Front in Utah has some of the worst air in the USA from tailpipe emissions.

[racprops]

YES it just when though the emission test.

That makes sense for to incress performance (IE: POWER) You add fuel, using more fuel means more smog.

Ever consider that one or two of the mileage improvements might decrees emissions??

After all the smog is the unburned waste out of the tail pipe and IF you could mange to limit the gas used by the car to as close to ONLY what is needed to power the car and thus you would have almost no wasted fuel still burning when the exhaust valve opens how cleaner things would be.

That is the hope for Gasoline Vapor.

Rich

[doviatt]

I asked if it passed.

Yes, I have considered and know that MPG improvements can lower emissions. Not in the case of Edge Products though.
Looks like you think you are onto something.

[racprops]

Yes it passed I got my new sticker to prove it.

And of course more HP and speed means more fuel, everyone knows that trick...

And I am only repeating what has been said about vapor systems for the past 75 years.

Rich