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Old 03-28-2018, 12:49 PM   #301 (permalink)
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A fairly bearish article on Tesla and model 3 production:

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the...sla-1522233639

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Old 03-28-2018, 12:51 PM   #302 (permalink)
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A fairly bearish article on Tesla and model 3 production:

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the...sla-1522233639
I've noticed lately that the articles I receive in my news feed are the same ones everyone else posts around the same time on the forums I follow.



I suspect you and I are being fed the same set of data.
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I'm shocked that they would push a common narrative.[/sarc]

'News feed'? Maybe you should try a 'news aggregator'. Same thing without the surveillance.

lifehacker.com/five-best-news-aggregators

Fark.com makes the cut
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:29 PM   #304 (permalink)
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Finally got the chance to have a good look over the Model 3 in person.
Over all it looks pretty decent (it is not as good looking as the model S)
I agree with others that the front grill shape in the bumper is a bit odd looking. Maybe it would look too much like a fusion if they did something there.

Although I'll never be a customer because of my ideas of what I am willing to spend on a vehicle.... I am happy that Tesla is developing this market and pushing the other manufacturers to improve their EV development.

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I've noticed lately that the articles I receive in my news feed are the same ones everyone else posts around the same time on the forums I follow.



I suspect you and I are being fed the same set of data.
Well, they all stem from the same event--Moody's downgraded Tesla's debt yesterday afternoon. (It's in the first paragraph of the WSJ article; the rest is behind a paywall and I'm cheap). So, every news outlet is going to publish their own variation on that story.
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Indeed, but I received the same specific article on my phone. I notice this on other sites (e.g. tech sites for computer hardware) as well - I get the exact same articles others are reposting on forums.
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I agree with others that the front grill shape in the bumper is a bit odd looking. Maybe it would look too much like a fusion if they did something there.

Although I'll never be a customer because of my ideas of what I am willing to spend on a vehicle....
Odd shaped grill? The Model 3 grill is shaped very similar to all other cars, including the Fusion. It's low and mostly unnoticed (or did the production model get an upper grill after all?).

I expect used Tesla prices to come way down once all the orders get filled. It might be a few more years. I'd like to own one too, but the most I've ever spent on a vehicle is $17k, and even that I felt was too much. It's just a car, after all.
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Bloomberg's Tesla Model 3 production tracker now shows an increase in production to above 1000 cars a week.
They also added a trend analysis which predicts production will reach 2000 cars a week within 3 weeks!
Seems like the slump is over.
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I'll probably never own a Tesla, but it would be nice to see the company succeed.

It sure seems like they're in a perfect storm of bad circumstances: Model 3 "hell"; the Model X fatality within days of the Uber fatality (if it's shown that autopilot was engaged, they're in big trouble); burning through cash; investors getting skittish.

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