07-23-2014, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by California98Civic
California does not do safety inspections. It only does smog. I hate the emissions tests, but I know what they are for. Millions lived in areas where they were routinely warned to stay in their homes because breathing could be dangerous. Here's LA City Hall on just one such day in 1948 (before the mega freeway boom):
Here's Elisian Park in 1980:
I first visited LA on a smoggy day in 1994. My eyes burned. Even as dramatically improved as things are from their low in the 1960s/1970s CA still has most of the smoggiest cities in the country.
I sometimes wish I didn't live here. Haha.
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LA geography doesn't help either, as the mountains tend to prevent smog from dispersing.
Washington state has emissions testing, but we are somewhat oxymoronic about it. New cars must meet California's stringent emissions requirements and we have to test every other year... but OBD2 cars just get a scan, and anything 25 years old or more gets a pass. Those few cars that do get tested only get checked for CO and unburnt HCs. NOx emissions is ignored entirely.
Now they have stopped checks on anything newer than 2008, so in another 20 years nothing will be checked. Motorcycles, certain hybrids, and most diesels are also exempt.
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07-23-2014, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by California98Civic
California does not do safety inspections. It only does smog. I hate the emissions tests, but I know what they are for. Millions lived in areas where they were routinely warned to stay in their homes because breathing could be dangerous. Here's LA City Hall on just one such day in 1948 (before the mega freeway boom):
Here's Elisian Park in 1980:
I first visited LA on a smoggy day in 1994. My eyes burned. Even as dramatically improved as things are from their low in the 1960s/1970s CA still has most of the smoggiest cities in the country.
I sometimes wish I didn't live here. Haha.
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I lived in No Cal from '68 to '78 and had to make many flights to LA for work. I've been in LA on these days. Couldn't see a single block from the hotel window. And, yes, my eyes burned from the H2SO4 and HNO3 in the air. Now, it is much better.
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07-26-2014, 09:40 PM
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Just filled up and I did 100 mpg! You have some serious competion, Insight owners.
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Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L
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07-27-2014, 12:22 AM
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Third 700+ mile tank in a row! Hey, it's not 100 mpg but my 66mpg will do just well enough to keep me in the top 10.
More importantly, my grill block redesign greatly improved my electric use from the grid. I recorded 3.04 kwh on the killawatt, which equals 242.17 miles/kwh for this tank. That's like 40% better. And if anything it has been hotter. I reduced the blocking, ducted more thoroughly to the rad, and moved the license plate out of the way. I could actually see the difference at one point today, on a commute to a nearby city for a work meeting. Last time I did this trip with the old blocking the coolant temp would often climb until the fan came on. This time is often hovered at 199, sometimes tripping to 203. But I didn't see the fan come on much. Not scientific, but encouraging.
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07-27-2014, 12:41 AM
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Third 700+ mile tank in a row! Hey, it's not 100 mpg but my 66mpg will do just well enough to keep me in the top 10.
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Good job!
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2000 Honda Insight MT Silverstone Metallic #95 (CAN) 131K mi. 81.7 Lmpg
Best Tank : 100.06 MPG (US) | 120.2 MPG (Imp) | 2.35 L/100Km | 42.54 Km/L
Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L
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07-27-2014, 10:39 PM
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Just filled up and I did 100 mpg! You have some serious competion, Insight owners.
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Congrats!
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07-31-2014, 10:27 PM
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Texas
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Originally Posted by Joggernot
Texas has an inspection...
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Is it a truck? "check" "pass"
Texas: He didn't care because it was a truck!
Then with the car: What is it? A car? What's that?
Last edited by benphyr; 08-01-2014 at 08:47 PM..
Reason: increase humour, decrease misunderstanding (or should that be Miss Understanding)
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08-01-2014, 09:14 AM
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Is it a truck? "check" "pass"
Texas: He didn't care because it was a truck!
Then with the car: What is it ? A car?
What is that ?
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Cars and pickups all must pass a quick check. I think it is more for safety than good operation. The one with the check engine codes was a 2005 Toyota Tacoma. I have since reset the codes using my scan gage, and the only one coming back is the catalytic converter on the left bank. I'll have to have my local mechanic replace it. I've already had the O2 sensors replaced.
"Truck" down here means pickup as everyone has one. Ours is used almost daily for hauling plants, bricks, rocks, soil, and manure to the AgriLife Extension Center Gardens. Why? Because it is a 4x4 and has a large carrying capacity that the other pickups don't have. 4x4 is needed for the road to the garden when it rains.
If you check my fuel log for the truck/pickup you'll see the poor mileage we get for this use.
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08-01-2014, 08:43 PM
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No harm intended - Texas has a similar stereotype of "must have a truck even for 1 bag of groceries" to Smithers, B.C. where I grew up. The Ford dealership says "This is Ford country". What they mean is that they sell more pickups than cars!
I wish we had mandatory annual safety testing here in Ontario. We only require one when there is change of ownership...
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... the only one coming back is the catalytic converter on the left bank. I'll have to have my local mechanic replace it. ...
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Bummer about the catalytic converter. They are a great technology but I hear they can be quite expensive.
-benphyr
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08-01-2014, 09:21 PM
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Texas has emissions in counties above X population (I forget what X is). In reality, although trucks are popular, the inspection here is a pain. Some shops are so strict as to drive you nuts. Others just kind of...do it. It also depends what shops will take a quick look and say "man, you won't pass because of (this or that). I won't put it in the computer..." Allowing you to seek a more friendly station. It's a stupid game.
I grew up in NorCal and in the Bay Area, we get smog buildup not entirely dissimilar to LA these days. It never got as famous because SF Bay didn't get as urbanized until after smog controls were enacted. I, however, rejected smog stuff and bought a pre-smog car. All I had to do was write a check to the DMV every year
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