Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Forum News & Feedback
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-23-2014, 02:50 PM   #571 (permalink)
.........................
 
darcane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Buckley, WA
Posts: 1,597
Thanks: 391
Thanked 488 Times in 316 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by California98Civic View Post
California does not do safety inspections. It only does smog. I hate the emissions tests, but I know what they are for. Millions lived in areas where they were routinely warned to stay in their homes because breathing could be dangerous. Here's LA City Hall on just one such day in 1948 (before the mega freeway boom):


Here's Elisian Park in 1980:

I first visited LA on a smoggy day in 1994. My eyes burned. Even as dramatically improved as things are from their low in the 1960s/1970s CA still has most of the smoggiest cities in the country.

I sometimes wish I didn't live here. Haha.
LA geography doesn't help either, as the mountains tend to prevent smog from dispersing.

Washington state has emissions testing, but we are somewhat oxymoronic about it. New cars must meet California's stringent emissions requirements and we have to test every other year... but OBD2 cars just get a scan, and anything 25 years old or more gets a pass. Those few cars that do get tested only get checked for CO and unburnt HCs. NOx emissions is ignored entirely.

Now they have stopped checks on anything newer than 2008, so in another 20 years nothing will be checked. Motorcycles, certain hybrids, and most diesels are also exempt.

__________________
Past Cars:

2001 Civic HX Mods

CTS-V

2003 Silverado Mods
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 07-23-2014, 05:14 PM   #572 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Joggernot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 451
Thanks: 1,837
Thanked 127 Times in 106 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by California98Civic View Post
California does not do safety inspections. It only does smog. I hate the emissions tests, but I know what they are for. Millions lived in areas where they were routinely warned to stay in their homes because breathing could be dangerous. Here's LA City Hall on just one such day in 1948 (before the mega freeway boom):



Here's Elisian Park in 1980:


I first visited LA on a smoggy day in 1994. My eyes burned. Even as dramatically improved as things are from their low in the 1960s/1970s CA still has most of the smoggiest cities in the country.

I sometimes wish I didn't live here. Haha.
I lived in No Cal from '68 to '78 and had to make many flights to LA for work. I've been in LA on these days. Couldn't see a single block from the hotel window. And, yes, my eyes burned from the H2SO4 and HNO3 in the air. Now, it is much better.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2014, 09:40 PM   #573 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
HyperMileQC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Laval, QC
Posts: 528

Trollinsight (Retired) - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
Gen-1 Insights
90 day: 68.06 mpg (US)

Redsight - '01 Honda Insight
Team Honda
Gen-1 Insights

Carole - '05 Toyota Corolla Xrs
Team Toyota

Brise-Fer - '05 Toyota Echo
Team Toyota
Thanks: 311
Thanked 93 Times in 69 Posts
Send a message via MSN to HyperMileQC
Just filled up and I did 100 mpg! You have some serious competion, Insight owners.
__________________
Trollinsight Modding Thread

2000 Honda Insight MT Silverstone Metallic #95 (CAN) 131K mi. 81.7 Lmpg
Best Tank : 100.06 MPG (US) | 120.2 MPG (Imp) | 2.35 L/100Km | 42.54 Km/L
Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to HyperMileQC For This Useful Post:
MetroMPG (07-27-2014), whatmaycome14 (07-28-2014)
Old 07-27-2014, 12:22 AM   #574 (permalink)
Cyborg ECU
 
California98Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Coastal Southern California
Posts: 6,299

Black and Green - '98 Honda Civic DX Coupe
Team Honda
90 day: 66.42 mpg (US)

Black and Red - '00 Nashbar Custom built eBike
90 day: 3671.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,373
Thanked 2,174 Times in 1,470 Posts
Third 700+ mile tank in a row! Hey, it's not 100 mpg but my 66mpg will do just well enough to keep me in the top 10.

More importantly, my grill block redesign greatly improved my electric use from the grid. I recorded 3.04 kwh on the killawatt, which equals 242.17 miles/kwh for this tank. That's like 40% better. And if anything it has been hotter. I reduced the blocking, ducted more thoroughly to the rad, and moved the license plate out of the way. I could actually see the difference at one point today, on a commute to a nearby city for a work meeting. Last time I did this trip with the old blocking the coolant temp would often climb until the fan came on. This time is often hovered at 199, sometimes tripping to 203. But I didn't see the fan come on much. Not scientific, but encouraging.
__________________
See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.



  Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2014, 12:41 AM   #575 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
HyperMileQC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Laval, QC
Posts: 528

Trollinsight (Retired) - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
Gen-1 Insights
90 day: 68.06 mpg (US)

Redsight - '01 Honda Insight
Team Honda
Gen-1 Insights

Carole - '05 Toyota Corolla Xrs
Team Toyota

Brise-Fer - '05 Toyota Echo
Team Toyota
Thanks: 311
Thanked 93 Times in 69 Posts
Send a message via MSN to HyperMileQC
Quote:
Originally Posted by California98Civic View Post
Third 700+ mile tank in a row! Hey, it's not 100 mpg but my 66mpg will do just well enough to keep me in the top 10.
Good job!
__________________
Trollinsight Modding Thread

2000 Honda Insight MT Silverstone Metallic #95 (CAN) 131K mi. 81.7 Lmpg
Best Tank : 100.06 MPG (US) | 120.2 MPG (Imp) | 2.35 L/100Km | 42.54 Km/L
Best commute : 130.8 MPG (US) | 157.1 MPG (Imp) | 1.8 L/100Km | 54.84 Km/L
Best Trip : 111.8 MPG (US) | 134.3 MPG (Imp) | 2.1 L/100Km | 47.53 Km/L
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2014, 10:39 PM   #576 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,534

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 57.73 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,082
Thanked 6,979 Times in 3,614 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by HyperMileQC View Post
Just filled up and I did 100 mpg! You have some serious competion, Insight owners.
Congrats!
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2014, 10:27 PM   #577 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Ontario
Posts: 101

Asphault Camo - retired - '05 Honda Civic SE
90 day: 35.81 mpg (US)

Asphault Camo Kid hauler - '98 Honda Odyssey LX
90 day: 24.33 mpg (US)
Thanks: 35
Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts
Talking Texas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joggernot View Post
Texas has an inspection...
Is it a truck? "check" "pass"

Texas: He didn't care because it was a truck!

Then with the car: What is it? A car? What's that?

Last edited by benphyr; 08-01-2014 at 08:47 PM.. Reason: increase humour, decrease misunderstanding (or should that be Miss Understanding)
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 09:14 AM   #578 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Joggernot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Texas
Posts: 451
Thanks: 1,837
Thanked 127 Times in 106 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by benphyr View Post
Is it a truck? "check" "pass"

Texas: He didn't care because it was a truck!

Then with the car: What is it ? A car?
What is that ?

Cars and pickups all must pass a quick check. I think it is more for safety than good operation. The one with the check engine codes was a 2005 Toyota Tacoma. I have since reset the codes using my scan gage, and the only one coming back is the catalytic converter on the left bank. I'll have to have my local mechanic replace it. I've already had the O2 sensors replaced.

"Truck" down here means pickup as everyone has one. Ours is used almost daily for hauling plants, bricks, rocks, soil, and manure to the AgriLife Extension Center Gardens. Why? Because it is a 4x4 and has a large carrying capacity that the other pickups don't have. 4x4 is needed for the road to the garden when it rains.

If you check my fuel log for the truck/pickup you'll see the poor mileage we get for this use.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 08:43 PM   #579 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Ontario
Posts: 101

Asphault Camo - retired - '05 Honda Civic SE
90 day: 35.81 mpg (US)

Asphault Camo Kid hauler - '98 Honda Odyssey LX
90 day: 24.33 mpg (US)
Thanks: 35
Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts
No harm intended - Texas has a similar stereotype of "must have a truck even for 1 bag of groceries" to Smithers, B.C. where I grew up. The Ford dealership says "This is Ford country". What they mean is that they sell more pickups than cars!

I wish we had mandatory annual safety testing here in Ontario. We only require one when there is change of ownership...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joggernot View Post
... the only one coming back is the catalytic converter on the left bank. I'll have to have my local mechanic replace it. ...
Bummer about the catalytic converter. They are a great technology but I hear they can be quite expensive.

-benphyr
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2014, 09:21 PM   #580 (permalink)
Just cruisin’ along
 
jcp123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,183

Beater Echo - '00 Toyota Echo
90 day: 42.67 mpg (US)

Hondizzle - '97 Honda Civic DX
Team Honda
90 day: 46.55 mpg (US)

Shaggin Waggin - '14 Chrysler Town + Country
90 day: 22.56 mpg (US)
Thanks: 66
Thanked 200 Times in 170 Posts
Texas has emissions in counties above X population (I forget what X is). In reality, although trucks are popular, the inspection here is a pain. Some shops are so strict as to drive you nuts. Others just kind of...do it. It also depends what shops will take a quick look and say "man, you won't pass because of (this or that). I won't put it in the computer..." Allowing you to seek a more friendly station. It's a stupid game.

I grew up in NorCal and in the Bay Area, we get smog buildup not entirely dissimilar to LA these days. It never got as famous because SF Bay didn't get as urbanized until after smog controls were enacted. I, however, rejected smog stuff and bought a pre-smog car. All I had to do was write a check to the DMV every year

__________________



'97 Honda Civic DX Coupe 5MT - dead 2/23
'00 Echo - dead 2/17
'14 Chrysler Town + Country - My DD, for now
'67 Mustang Convertible - gone 1/17
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com